It's really hard for people to understand now what it was like before the feminist movement. The wedding was the big thing, the marriage was success, you couldn't have career aspirations you couldn't decide not to have a child, the most beautiful woman was never satisfied with how she looked. You could look like miss America and you're still thought something was wrong with how you looked, let's not even talk about birth control and abortion, the horror, the fear of pregnancy loomed over anything one did. if you were raped, people wouldn't believe you, if you were battered, no one would believe you. It was feminists who brought up these issues and put them on the table, we had a sense of momentum, that was the sense of momentum that came from the 60s. It was like all this energy had been pent up in these women for all these years, and it just exploded.